"Nuanced" is when Napoleon is defeated at Waterloo, bro, not this.
India heavily underestimated China, assuming that China of 1962 would be the same sickly China of 1947.
The Humiliation factor comes from the fact that China and India were supposed to be roughly equivalent countries, or so India assumed, and thus a war between them should have been a stalemate. But China achieved all it's objectives, and offered ceasefire on it's own terms.
That was humiliating. China basically whipped and pinned India on the playground in front of the whole school and said, "You want more of this?"
And since I am Pakistani, to offset the usual comments, may I remind you all that pre-1962 war, Pakistan was actually against China, even more so that it was against India, and basically asked India to join forces to press China on the Kashmir boundary issue, something which India rejected.
And in the 62 war itself, we offered silent support and safe passage through Pakistani held areas for the Indian army.
It's only after India's utter defeat that we realized, that if some one like India was whipped, there is no way some one like us has any chance against China, so better smooch up to them. Hence the Pak-China friendship, and the shift in our policy.
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Yeah...which is precisely my point!
We gave that after the 62 war! Before the war, we were against them, after the war, we were all friendly to them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Karakoram_Tract#Sino-Pakistan_Frontier_Agreement
Note that it happened in '63.
As for the humiliation, it's directly relevant because that's what drove us towards China! Your utter defeat made us realize it was in our best interest to be buddies with China.
This isn't some sort of veiled form of indo-pak internet flamewar, but you have got to admit, China started out from a worse position than India was at 1947, but by 62, it had improved leaps and bounds, and was able to assert itself far more strongly than India could. China made India run to the Kennedy and beg for help; This is made India look weak. More specifically, in chinese cultural terms, it gained "face", and that made all the difference
It isn't relevant whether India could have won or whatever, because statistics aside, India felt emotionally humiliated.
The Indo-China war happened after that.
It was a classic enemy of my enemy is my friend from Pakistan.
I am actually surprised that Pakistan did not attack us during the war. Maybe US which was looking to take India also into its camp pressured Ayub to stand off.
Nope, War was in october-november 62, and negotiations began then too:
China withdrew maps, but the issue still remained. Only in 63, and finalization of negotiation, did we give the valley, well after the war.
As for Pakistani involvlement in war:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Indian_War#Involvement_of_other_nations
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In retrospect, that doesnt look good since Pakistan did this three years later.
Exactly, Three years later, which makes all the difference, and which is precisely the point I am trying to make.
I am not saying that Pakistan was a bastion of good or whatever, merely that our policy shifted heavily after India's humiliating defeat at '62. We suddenly saw China as our Lord and Savior etc etc...
